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Old Nov 16, 2009, 08:55 AM // 08:55   #1
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Thumbs down What has happened to GvG?

I saw 2 high ranked guild fight. I thought I would see some epic battle. Turned out to be a huge dissapointment.

Both guilds were using the same proffessions and same builds. How god damn bland is that?



I thought that hey, it was probably a coincidence, but now I'm watching even higher ranked guilds fight with yet again, same build.
Whats Going On [sup] vs High Ping Victims [FFS].

I mean, I know that people will use the FOTM-build because they're obviously good, but that GvG getting filled up with these bland, gimmicky builds is beyond my knowledge.
Was just boring to watch. Probably boring to play too, knowing you're using a build that everyone else is GvGing with.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 09:15 AM // 09:15   #2
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Yeap, the game is incredibly stale and apparently Anet doesn't care. I was fairly sure there was meant to be an update this month, but unless they do some huge changes that aren't incredibly stupid then things are going to stay the same. L4D2 out tomorrow though so something to look foward too.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 09:20 AM // 09:20   #3
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PvP has been dead for a while. Guess you didn't get the message.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 09:25 AM // 09:25   #4
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Sad but true.

Also, lord damage sucks. Really.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 10:16 AM // 10:16   #5
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Ummmm welcome to this concept called metagame.

Seriously, those builds (based on professions) don't even look gimmicky or FOTM. That is just meta.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 10:20 AM // 10:20   #6
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Ye, it's been like that for while

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Also, lord damage sucks. Really.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 12:31 PM // 12:31   #7
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it is called metagame and it's been there since the release of prophecies.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 12:37 PM // 12:37   #8
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Ummmm welcome to this concept called metagame.
More like welcome to this concept called garbage metagame.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 12:38 PM // 12:38   #9
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it is called megafail and it's been there since anet stopped caring about gw1..
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 12:58 PM // 12:58   #10
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There's really no reason to run any other build atm on frozen, hence people running that one. The meta is retardedly stale right now due to half a dozen factors, several of which aren't likely ever going to change. It's probably going to stay this way, so you'd better get used to it.

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Both guilds were using the same professions and same builds. How god damn bland is that?
Why do people find mirror matches boring? The particular build in question is pretty unfun, but why is it that you immediately associate mirror with boring? A great deal of the most intense, fun matches I've played have been mirrors, where people don't have buildwars as an excuse to hide behind. If you're playing a direct mirror, then map irregularities aside, you have to simply outplay your opponent to win.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 02:09 PM // 14:09   #11
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Lack of large and significant skill balances brings about a lack of interesting PvP. It's been this way for a while now.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 02:20 PM // 14:20   #12
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You guys are dumb. These builds are the least boring builds I've seen in a long time. Honor balance vs honor balance, match of the best. I'm sick of the real gimmicks, hexway, rspike, ranger assassins etc.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 02:23 PM // 14:23   #13
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updates every 2 months means you get to watch the same builds for longer and imba builds (there aren't any that are too bad atm) last longer.


My advice is stop observing anything but mAT finals and start gvging, or look for how one guild lost when their builds are the same.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 02:44 PM // 14:44   #14
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I disagree! Watching two evenly matched teams running nearly the same build is usually an all-out slugfest. This isn't gimmicky crud, as others have said, it's just the best builds built to win given the certain circumstances. Sure, people play for fun... but people usually play to win, and you bring what you can to achieve that goal.

There hasn't been a balance in a while, and things will get jiggled around a bit once we do.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 02:46 PM // 14:46   #15
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Where have you been? Teams have been running a (changing) meta build for years. Although I agree with Dreamwind the meta is particularly crummy now. But that doesn't mean people were not running the EXACT same thing all the time a few years ago either.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 02:49 PM // 14:49   #16
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You guys are dumb. These builds are the least boring builds I've seen in a long time. Honor balance vs honor balance, match of the bes...
This

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... Why do people find mirror matches boring? The particular build in question is pretty unfun, but why is it that you immediately associate mirror with boring? A great deal of the most intense, fun matches I've played have been mirrors, where people don't have buildwars as an excuse to hide behind. If you're playing a direct mirror, then map irregularities aside, you have to simply outplay your opponent to win.
This.

I find it hilarious that [Dii] member compared running 'ballanced' PvP team build in most ballanced way (mirror match) to PvE farming shits. Are you really so insecure about PvEing?
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 02:54 PM // 14:54   #17
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yeah, i love watching 2 balanced go head to head. The only boringness in that match is if you're flagging for it.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 03:00 PM // 15:00   #18
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Factions and Nightfall happened.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 03:01 PM // 15:01   #19
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vR clearly has their mesmer in 3rd slot while yumy has theirs in 5th. Totally diff teams.
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Old Nov 16, 2009, 03:23 PM // 15:23   #20
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You guys are dumb. These builds are the least boring builds I've seen in a long time. Honor balance vs honor balance, match of the best. I'm sick of the real gimmicks, hexway, rspike, ranger assassins etc.

Dead game is... D. E. A. D.

This build has been used for months and months, yet you haven't seen an interesting match in "a long time?"

You can only observe so-called "high-end PvP" so much before it becomes utterly gawd awful and a pain to endure.

Being the best in a dead game? Really? That's like a group of gym class fat kids that can't climb rope, but being the only one to at least be able to pick up his feet and support his own weight for a few seconds before collapsing to the floor.
You are still an obese fat kid. Congrats.

FFS.. Flip a coin, nobody cares about the outcome of PvP of a dead game.

And sitting there "watching" the outcome of OTHER people play PvP in a low populated game with an unchanged meta is even more pathetic.

You have now officially become the fat kid with the doctor's note stating that you cannot participate in gym class because strenuous activity might kill you.
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